tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7888733585496779286.post3636294023907296054..comments2023-04-27T05:35:45.895-07:00Comments on CofA5 2009: Hope: New sex crime ploy of Franciscans: Only take pedophilia reports in Confession then claim religious privilege: Plus a Phoenix-Santa Barbara connectionKay Ebelinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13753284586265566961noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7888733585496779286.post-5327834988041917502009-12-01T18:55:27.181-08:002009-12-01T18:55:27.181-08:00Kay, this stuff is jaw dropping. You're doing ...Kay, this stuff is jaw dropping. You're doing the Lord's work.<br /><br />Re: Steve Dzida's claim that there are people making bogus claims of abuse by RCC priests.<br /><br />Mr. Dzida, if you are going to complain about these unproven allegations, would you please tell us what evidence you have to substantiate your allegation that there are false claims?<br /><br />You say you have first hand knowledge that the statements Kay quoted are not true. Where's your evidence?<br /><br />The percentage of claims against the church that are false are exceedingly low and the reasons for this should become obvious very quickly to anyone who actually gives some thought to to the matter.<br /><br />The church has fought in court to make the names of victims available to the press even when they remained silent and wished to be anonymous. So why would the church deserve any consideration?<br /><br />No doubt the church would love to censor every abuse story they've ever been involved in...if they could.<br /><br />The church could take these phony victims to court and publicly clear it's name. Why doesn't it? Why does the church always settle on the eve of a trial?<br /><br />Because the church is guilty as hell. Because the church would rather pay hundreds of millions of dollars than let the facts be heard. <br /><br />How anyone can defend this evil entity is beyond me.<br /><br />George PierceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7888733585496779286.post-88659980512555285872009-12-01T17:15:23.990-08:002009-12-01T17:15:23.990-08:00My name is Steve Dzida. I posted my comments yeste...My name is Steve Dzida. I posted my comments yesterday using my first and my last name but your software seems to have omitted the last name. "First hand" knowledge means seen or witnessed personally. As a matter of fact, many claims in complaints filed in court are NOT supported by first hand knowledge but rather by "I know a guy who said," which as you correctly point out is not as strong as first hand knowledge. My only purpose in providing you additional information was to assist you in "being as accurate a journalist as possible." If that is not truly your goal or if you are only interested in one side of the story, then I apologize for wasting your time.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00947254558635075438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7888733585496779286.post-32437222962690259562009-12-01T04:42:24.488-08:002009-12-01T04:42:24.488-08:00Also, Steve, "I know from firsthand knowledge...Also, Steve, "I know from firsthand knowledge" is not too great a source. I think my quotes from a complaint filed in superior court are a bit more credible than "I know a guy who said." Also, Steve, everyone knows who I am, who are you? Why is a Church apologist who comments here using his first name only? I'm just a little old lady being as accurate a journalit as possible reporting on these crimes? Who are you?Kay Ebelinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13753284586265566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7888733585496779286.post-9156618285945724042009-12-01T04:34:23.755-08:002009-12-01T04:34:23.755-08:00Why don't you start a Blog for the Franciscans...Why don't you start a Blog for the Franciscans? Tell their story that way. ebelingKay Ebelinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13753284586265566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7888733585496779286.post-14805111819287232812009-11-30T14:08:03.891-08:002009-11-30T14:08:03.891-08:00We know that many persons have suffered sexual abu...We know that many persons have suffered sexual abuse by priests. We also know that some persons have claimed to have suffered abuse when in fact they had not. You seem to assume that any statement made in a Complaint filed in a lawsuit is by definition true. That is not the case. It would be wrong to assume without proof that statements by victims and their attorneys are by definition false. It would likewise be wrong to assume without proof that such statements are true. Therefore, it is imprudent for you to quote from the filed Complaints as if those statements are unquestionably correct. I know from first hand knowledge that the statements you quoted are not all true. I also know that the Franciscans have issued a public statement denying they have a policy of discussing sexual abuse claims only under the seal of the confessional and denying that Fr. Michael Harvey refused to speak to someone apparently reporting an abuse claim except in the confessional. There are many fine priests who are not perpetrators and who do not deserve to be lumped in with perpetrators without proof being offered. There are some persons making accusations of clerical sexual abuse who do not deserve to be lumped in with actual survivors of such abuse because they did not in fact suffer such abuse. Until the plaintiffs (or you) can produce proof of the claims in the Complaints, truth demands that you at least make known to your readers the position of the Franciscans on these accusations.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00947254558635075438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7888733585496779286.post-50909333988102048192009-11-24T08:51:25.060-08:002009-11-24T08:51:25.060-08:00How can this be???
A person can only confess their...How can this be???<br />A person can only confess their OWN sins under the seal of the confessional, as I understand it. Victims of sex abuse were not willing participants, so how can they be guilty of any sin??? <br />So how can the priest claim immunity for the behavior of others who were not involved at that particular reception of the sacrament???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7888733585496779286.post-52647970415204481522009-11-23T19:45:00.675-08:002009-11-23T19:45:00.675-08:00Eeeeeeeeek!!!!!Eeeeeeeeek!!!!!hrhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06989434735794993426noreply@blogger.com